Nice growth again! Steam was not lost with the holiday quarter. No Watch numbers in this, hopefully some light on it in the call.
Summary:
58B revenue
13.6B profit
27% growth in revenue
40% growth in EPS (not profit)
Watch margins will be lower than other products. There is indication of lower volumes. Meet demand by July.
Unrelated to earning call, I have the watch (basic sport version). It is good in many ways. Except battery life is one day (16hrs with demos to 12% charge) - charge over night or 2 hours.
It has bugs.
Some nice apps.
Can't use it for more than a few seconds but less anxiety of leaving phone at the desk.
Shows time only to the wearer.
Apple Pay worked great!
Taking calls works great in car if you don't have bluetooth, since the hand is resting on the wheel.
Overall some good use cases some bugs. Should be as good as iPad in terms of sales.
From the earnings call the size of the Watch market seems to be about the size of the iPad. 5-10% bonus on the valuation. Will add 5% to my DCF model. I have updated the DCF sheet from last post. Main update was to change the 15% decline in 2016 to 10% decline in profit. Added 5% for the watch.
The Call:
Tim:
Strongest march quarter. Fantastic iPhone, higher rate of switcher. Emerging markets up 63%. App store 29% YOY. Mac business strong eating PC.
Strategic investments, 27 acquisitions in 6 quarters.
Capital return 200B through March 2017!
Momentum in Apple Pay. Discover from fall. Best Buy will take Apple Pay by end of year. Health care payment network (including Stanford).
Momentum in health solutions. 1000 apps.
Health hit integration MyCS app.
Research Kit (same as key note). Exceeding expectations. 1000 researchers interested.
Europe: $2B data centers in Ireland and Denmark. Developers in Europe.
Pro Environment - check website. 100% renewable in US, 87% in supply chain. Protect forest in NC, USA.
June quarter started well. (Watch)
MacBook (recall key note) - good response.
HBO (recall key note) - no cable! top downloads
Apple Watch - Great reaction and excitement on social network. Lots of interest from developers.
Thanks to Developers and Employees! (nice touch)
Luca:
growth due to iPhone, App store, Mac. despite forex. 71% growth in China. 19.4B cash flow - March record.
80% or more growth in iPhone in many markets.
ASP of $624
1M inventory 5-7 weeks.
Macbook. 4-5 week inventory.
iPad sell through 13.7M 5-7 week target inventory. Japan,China did well others did not.
iPad doing better than other tablets.
doing well on enterprise. focus on work.
IBM, 24+ others. DocuSign,MicroStrategy..
App Store 71% more money than Google Pay.
23% growth in online store visits.
21 stores in 11 cities of China.
193.5B in cash balance.
40B term debt.
Solicit input from shareholders.
By Mar 2017 expanded to 197B
52cents/share of dividend 11% increase. Continue to increase yearly.
Outlook:
46-48B (compare 37B)
..
Questions:
Bill:
Gross margins surprise, how?
FX -ve impact was expected and it happened. It will continue. 40 basis points next quarter.
Looking to increase prices in some markets. We feel good about where we are.
Color on dynamics of customer mix?
Higher rate of switchers.
reasonable percentage of first time buyers.
Katie:
Watch may take longer to ramp (supply). Is is happening.
Compare to iPad.
Supply, Demand
Demand > Supply.
We made progress. Delivered more this weekend than anticipated.
New product for us, so it will take time to ramp. Good position by late June.
New countries by late June.
Overwhelmingly positive response.
Ahead on apps ecosystem. Internal goal was 1000 apps but we are at 3500 apps.
Learning about customer preferences. many configurations. matching production to demand.
R&D growth? broader set of projects?
Our current product is already diverse. We are developing core technologies in house. Spending ahead of products, which is why you seed the R&D spend. 8.2% expense to revenue.
Jeane:
Congratulations! What does switchers mean? more market share?
Luca any margin impact from watch?
iPhone 40% growth. 16% market growth (IDC). we did well.
Bullish on current qtr as well.
switchers + first time buyers.
it is tough to find something in the numbers not to like.
Luca: loss of leverage, FX 40 bpts. Apple watch margins will be lower than average.
20% upgraded to 6/6+
Tony:
Revisit the watch. Relative to other products, (superlatives..) consensus expecting more than iPad sales, can you give some hints?
How do we model? compared to iPad..
Tim: I am thrilled with it. Don't read anything else. When demand >> supply difficult to gauge. Can't forecast more than the quarter. We have enough to think about here. 100% positive response from customers.
Q. Margins are lower? surprising, despite the higher price points.. Is it lower volumes?
Tim: We are not going to guide to gross margin on the product. Our quarter guidance.
first quarter will always have learning.
The cost breakdowns you see are not accurate (ever) dig on the data.
Q:
iPhone, what are people saying?
Record in China. Chinese new year. Mac also did well in China 31% (IDC down 7% market). Everything including iPad was good in China. We added Union Pay as a payment options. We are on many cities. Online store revenue 3x increase. 40 stores by middle of next year. 15 new cities.
call got cut. back to work.
Summary:
58B revenue
13.6B profit
27% growth in revenue
40% growth in EPS (not profit)
Watch margins will be lower than other products. There is indication of lower volumes. Meet demand by July.
Unrelated to earning call, I have the watch (basic sport version). It is good in many ways. Except battery life is one day (16hrs with demos to 12% charge) - charge over night or 2 hours.
It has bugs.
Some nice apps.
Can't use it for more than a few seconds but less anxiety of leaving phone at the desk.
Shows time only to the wearer.
Apple Pay worked great!
Taking calls works great in car if you don't have bluetooth, since the hand is resting on the wheel.
Overall some good use cases some bugs. Should be as good as iPad in terms of sales.
From the earnings call the size of the Watch market seems to be about the size of the iPad. 5-10% bonus on the valuation. Will add 5% to my DCF model. I have updated the DCF sheet from last post. Main update was to change the 15% decline in 2016 to 10% decline in profit. Added 5% for the watch.
The Call:
Tim:
Strongest march quarter. Fantastic iPhone, higher rate of switcher. Emerging markets up 63%. App store 29% YOY. Mac business strong eating PC.
Strategic investments, 27 acquisitions in 6 quarters.
Capital return 200B through March 2017!
Momentum in Apple Pay. Discover from fall. Best Buy will take Apple Pay by end of year. Health care payment network (including Stanford).
Momentum in health solutions. 1000 apps.
Health hit integration MyCS app.
Research Kit (same as key note). Exceeding expectations. 1000 researchers interested.
Europe: $2B data centers in Ireland and Denmark. Developers in Europe.
Pro Environment - check website. 100% renewable in US, 87% in supply chain. Protect forest in NC, USA.
June quarter started well. (Watch)
MacBook (recall key note) - good response.
HBO (recall key note) - no cable! top downloads
Apple Watch - Great reaction and excitement on social network. Lots of interest from developers.
Thanks to Developers and Employees! (nice touch)
Luca:
growth due to iPhone, App store, Mac. despite forex. 71% growth in China. 19.4B cash flow - March record.
80% or more growth in iPhone in many markets.
ASP of $624
1M inventory 5-7 weeks.
Macbook. 4-5 week inventory.
iPad sell through 13.7M 5-7 week target inventory. Japan,China did well others did not.
iPad doing better than other tablets.
doing well on enterprise. focus on work.
IBM, 24+ others. DocuSign,MicroStrategy..
App Store 71% more money than Google Pay.
23% growth in online store visits.
21 stores in 11 cities of China.
193.5B in cash balance.
40B term debt.
Solicit input from shareholders.
By Mar 2017 expanded to 197B
52cents/share of dividend 11% increase. Continue to increase yearly.
Outlook:
46-48B (compare 37B)
..
Questions:
Bill:
Gross margins surprise, how?
FX -ve impact was expected and it happened. It will continue. 40 basis points next quarter.
Looking to increase prices in some markets. We feel good about where we are.
Color on dynamics of customer mix?
Higher rate of switchers.
reasonable percentage of first time buyers.
Katie:
Watch may take longer to ramp (supply). Is is happening.
Compare to iPad.
Supply, Demand
Demand > Supply.
We made progress. Delivered more this weekend than anticipated.
New product for us, so it will take time to ramp. Good position by late June.
New countries by late June.
Overwhelmingly positive response.
Ahead on apps ecosystem. Internal goal was 1000 apps but we are at 3500 apps.
Learning about customer preferences. many configurations. matching production to demand.
R&D growth? broader set of projects?
Our current product is already diverse. We are developing core technologies in house. Spending ahead of products, which is why you seed the R&D spend. 8.2% expense to revenue.
Jeane:
Congratulations! What does switchers mean? more market share?
Luca any margin impact from watch?
iPhone 40% growth. 16% market growth (IDC). we did well.
Bullish on current qtr as well.
switchers + first time buyers.
it is tough to find something in the numbers not to like.
Luca: loss of leverage, FX 40 bpts. Apple watch margins will be lower than average.
20% upgraded to 6/6+
Tony:
Revisit the watch. Relative to other products, (superlatives..) consensus expecting more than iPad sales, can you give some hints?
How do we model? compared to iPad..
Tim: I am thrilled with it. Don't read anything else. When demand >> supply difficult to gauge. Can't forecast more than the quarter. We have enough to think about here. 100% positive response from customers.
Q. Margins are lower? surprising, despite the higher price points.. Is it lower volumes?
Tim: We are not going to guide to gross margin on the product. Our quarter guidance.
first quarter will always have learning.
The cost breakdowns you see are not accurate (ever) dig on the data.
Q:
iPhone, what are people saying?
Record in China. Chinese new year. Mac also did well in China 31% (IDC down 7% market). Everything including iPad was good in China. We added Union Pay as a payment options. We are on many cities. Online store revenue 3x increase. 40 stores by middle of next year. 15 new cities.
call got cut. back to work.